Cavedweller: A Novel

Cavedweller: A Novel

by Dorothy Allison
Cavedweller: A Novel

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From the author of the "flawless" (The New York Times Book Review) classic Bastard Out of Carolina comes Cavedweller, once again demonstrating Allison's umatched strengths as a storyteller. Reading "like a thematic sequel" (The New Yorker) to her first novel, Cavedweller tackles questions of forgiveness, mother-daughter bonds, and the strength of the human spirit.

When Delia Byrd packs up her old Datsun and her daughter Cissy and gets on the Santa Monica Freeway heading south and east, she is leaving everything she has known for ten years: the tinsel glitter of the rock 'n' roll world; her dreams of singing and songwriting; and a life lived on credit cards and whiskey with a man who made promises he couldn't keep. Delia Byrd is going back to Cayro, Georgia, to reclaim her life--and the two daughters she left behind...Told in the incantatory voice of one of America's most eloquent storytellers, Cavedweller is a sweeping novel of the human spirit, the lost and hidden recesses of the heart, and the place where violence and redemption intersect.

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ISBN-13: 9781101127605
Publisher: Penguin Publishing Group
Publication date: 05/01/1999
Sold by: Penguin Group
Format: eBook
Pages: 448
File size: 696 KB
Age Range: 18 Years

About the Author

Dorothy Allison is the acclaimed author of the nationally bestselling novel Bastard Out of Carolina, which was a finalist for the 1992 National Book Award. The recipient of numerous awards, she lives in Northern California.

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CAVEDWELLER
by Dorothy Allison

 

INTRODUCTION

The Village Voice has called her "a hell of a writer-tough and loose, clear and compassionate." George Garrett, author and critic who reviewed Bastard Out of Carolina for The New York Times Book Review wanted to "blow a bugle to alert the reading public that a major new talent has arrived." Critics have likened her to William Faulkner, Flannery O'Connor and Harper Lee, naming her the first writer of her generation to dramatize the lives and language of poor whites in the South. "She has an all-encompassing knowledge of what it's like to be the other, the outsider," says Studs Terkel. Garrett agrees: "It's as if the people in Dorothea Lange photographs, in the work of Margaret Bourke-White and Walker Evans, were able to speak." But with a dead-center look that says "Don't mess with me, honey. I'm liable to pour gravy on you," Allison defies easy characterization, as one writer for The New York Times put it. And she likes it that way.

Part gospel singer, part country preacher, Allison often jokes that as a girl she wanted to be Janis Joplin. She has a wardrobe full of rhinestone-studded leather jackets and a desk drawer full of family snapshots. She's a mean shot with a rifle, and her language is always dead-on: lush, beautiful, and brutal. "Dorothy sees everything", says Jewelle Gomez, the poet and novelist.

Allison has spent her entire life telling forbidden stories, pulling her best fiction out from the edge of terror and the courage to heal. In Two or Three Things I Know for Sure, a short memoir she published in 1995, Allison writes,

Where I was born —Greenville, South Carolina—smelled like nowhere else I've been. Cut wet grass, split green apples, baby shit and beer bottles, cheap makeup and motor oil. Everything was ripe, everything was rotting. Hound dogs butted my calves. People shouted in the distance; crickets boomed in my ears. That country was beautiful, I swear to you, the most beautiful place I've ever been. Beautiful and terrible.

Allison wants the hard and terrible stories, she demands them from herself. And her readers wait for them.

Readers might call Cavedweller the blazing daughter of Bastard Out of Carolina, but even that will not do justice to the mystical story and landscape, the world of family, and the secret-filled South in which Allison has set in her new novel. Allison begins her absorbing saga about Delia Byrd and her three daughters with a simple sentence: "Death changes everything," and by story's end, Allison has uncovered the complicated cycles of sinning and atonement along an enormous expanse of births, deaths, and rebirths alongside husbands, lovers, families, friends. Young, beautiful Delia flees a whisky-soaked, violent man who loves her passionately and beats her within an inch of her life. On a dusty sideroad she meets Randall, a musician on his way to the top, and deserts her two baby daughters in Cayro, Georgia, land of biscuit franchises and backwoods Baptists. Randall and Delia form the band Mud Dog, and together they write music, hit the road, and have a child, Cissy. But even while pasting together a life of soul, drugs, truck stops, vodka shots, and credit card bills in the glitter of Los Angeles, Delia doesn't care about fame or money and cannot live with the fact that she left her two girls behind. When a motorcycle accident kills Randall, Delia quits the bottle and takes Cissy on a midnight drive-through mission back to reclaim her life (and reconnect with her original sin) in Georgia, where folks remember her as "that bitch [who] ran off and left her babies."

Delia fights off the urge to drink as she suffers the scorn of her family and a bitter community who despises her for what she did and who she became. She moves back in with Clint Windsor, her cancer-stricken husband, and offers to care for him on his deathbed if he will allow her to reclaim her two daughters, Amanda, 15, and Dede, 12, from their Bible-thumping grandmother. Evangelical Amanda takes after her grandma Windsor, and pursues the Lord and anti-abortion activism with the manic fervor of a zealot. Wild and slim Dede is every man's dream, redneck or not. Though not into Jesus, she is as passionate as her sister Amanda, and dreams of getting behind the wheel of a big truck and heading down the road, any road, out of Georgia. Finally, there's tough yet vulnerable Cissy, who finds her obsession in the dank sport of caving, where she finds strength to grab her future as she scrapes through the caves of Southern Georgia, through Paula's Lost and Little Mouth. All three girls are something to behold as they grow up into enraged yet empowered women. It is Delia, though, who is the real "cavedweller" —a woman whose deep past is gradually mapped and explored, and who is able to remake herself and her family through what she discovers. Led by the example of their determined mother, each daughter opens her heart a little wider to others and finds her own way in the world.

 

ABOUT DOROTHY ALLISON Dorothy Allison was born in 1949 in Greenville, South Carolina, to a fourteen-year-old unwed mother. The only father figure she ever knew was a violently abusive man who used her mother's desperate desire for respectability to tie the terrified family to him. Though it was Allison's mother who placed her daughter in these precarious situations by not challenging her husband, Allison credits her as an inspiration. While the Greenville community disdained Allison for being poor and illegitimate, Allison's mother insisted her child was bright. She kept a jar of money she called the college fund, and though she had to empty it on several occasions and Allison's college was paid for by a National Merit Scholarship, just the presence of that jar convinced Allison that she had a right to excel.

The first of her family to graduate high school, Allison went on to get a bachelor's degree from Florida Presbyterian College and a master's from New York's School of Social Research. Allison credits emerging feminism with much of her redemption. Suddenly, getting angry did not make her a misfit, and the movement gave her the strength to reclaim her self from years of put downs and abuse.

When she began her writing career, Allison kept close to the gay and feminist presses, distrusting the establishment and believing that "literature was written by men, judged by men." In 1988 Firebrand Press published Trash, a book of short stories, that started to win Allison notice. This was followed by The Women Who Hate Me: Poetry, 1980-1990, which secured Allison's stature as a respected talent within the gay and lesbian community.

When Bastard Out of Carolina was published by Dutton in 1992, Allison achieved mainstream success. Bastard was greeted with rave reviews from the Village Voice, the San Francisco Chronicle, and The New York Times Book Review, and nominated for the National Book Award. Allison returned to a small press with Skin: Talking About Sex, Class and Literature, a critically acclaimed collection of essays.

In 1995, she published a short memoir, Two or Three Things I Know for Sure, using text and family photographs. In March 1998, Allison's most ambitious work yet was released. Cavedweller is an epic novel that chronicles the trials and victories of four strong women and the opportunities they wrest from the unforgiving terrain of small town Georgia.

In addition to her own books, Allison has contributed to many publications, ranging from The New York Times to Harpers and Allure. Allison lives in Northern California with her partner and their son, and continues to pursue "the thing all writers want —for the world to break open in response to my story...The same thing I have always wanted."

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Bastard Out of Carolina by Dorothy Allison

This autobiographical novel about a young girl in the rural South facing abuse and betrayal won high critical acclaim and a National Book Award nomination upon its release in 1992. The power of Bastard Out of Carolina is simultaneously narrative, emotional, and political. "The novel is mean," Allison says, "meant to rip off all that facade of imagination and lies we place around sexual violence and children."

The backdrop of this tale is Greenville, South Carolina, and its narrator is "Bone" Boatwright, a twelve year old trying to remember and comprehend the events that led to her being abandoned by her mother. Bone and her sister Reese are surrounded by colorful characters, most of them relations. Her uncles are feared by men and adored by women, while her aunts are long-suffering yet defiant. Her grandmother is a strict matriarch who loves her brood but "always loved her boy children more." While Anney Boatwright and her two girls face many trials —Bone's illegitimacy, the death of Reese's father —their real trouble starts when Anney marries Glenn Waddell, the black sheep of a prominent family, whose most outstanding characteristics are his uncontrollable temper and oversized hands. Though Daddy Glenn at first offers the girls sugary reassurances, when Anney miscarries his child he turns against them. Instead of lashing out at his wife, Glenn chooses the weakest target, Bone, and tears the family apart by claiming to need Anney's love and care more than her own young daughters do.

Even as Bone suffers immense hardship, she is not alone. Fierce determination and a loving extended family help her through, and though our heartsache to think of what Bone must bear, her perseverance leaves us hope for her future.

Allison says she designed the book so that the reader meets all these people —Bone, Anney, and Glenn, the wild uncles and long-suffering aunts —and becomes gradually drawn into their world through the character of Bone. "You see what happens —Daddy Glen's cruelty, the sexual violence —only through the filter of Bone trying to survive. It took me a long time to get it right. About 10 years."

The Showtime movie based on the book, directed by Anjelica Huston and starring Jennifer Jason Leigh, was funded by Ted Turner, but he pronounced it too graphic to be shown on his network. In several states, Bastard has been banned from classrooms and school libraries. Most recently, the book was distributed to Maine high-schoolers by private citizens, in protest of the Maine Supreme Court's November 1997 decision that allowed the schools to continue their ban of the book.

Two or Three Things I Know for Sure by Dorothy Allison

Allison's short memoir interweaves reminiscences, observations and family snapshots. It starts as an ode to the Gibson family, especially its women —Allison's aunts, mother, grandmother, sisters, and cousins —who broke down young and aged quickly, but somehow kept going and, refused to run away. Looking back, Allison acknowledges "The women I loved most in the world horrified me. I did not want to grow up to be them."

It is from aunt Dot that the title phrase comes, "Lord, girl, there's only two or three things I know for sure," and Allison uses it to punctuate her stories, to ease us from one bitter or wistful recollection to the next. Her world is never pretty or secure, but she is able to transform it through revelations from herself and other people, some sought and some serendipitous. She examines both the detrimental and redeeming power of storytelling and shows how she managed to wrest her past and her present away from those who had hurt her and from those who refused to acknowledge the truth.

The memoir is also the basis of a short documentary film, Two or Three Things But Nothing for Sure, available through the New York City-based educational distributor Women Make Movies.

 

AN INTERVIEW WITH DOROTHY ALLISON

What would you define as the starting point of your career as a writer? Was there a certain experience or occurrence that revealed your vocation to you?

As a child I was a talented liar with a gift for telling horrible scary stories to my sisters and cousins but I did not begin to write stories down until adolescence. My first "written" story came about after I fell madly in love with The Fighting Prince of Donegal a Disney Movie about an Irish revolutionary in the army of Robert the Bruce. It was a fairly awful movie but I made it into a ninety page play in verse that my mama thought perfectly wonderful. My verse version was fairly awful too, but it started me off writing poems and stories. For me, writing was, and is, sneaky. It teases the truth out of you, and in my poor and violent family the truth was terribly dangerous. For a decade I burned every story and journal entry I wrote, lighting fireplaces with poems and building bonfires with fragments of novels. Only when I discovered the women's movement did I begin to write stories again in earnest, and then only with the help and encouragement of other women. Even then the terrible drive to hide and destroy what I wrote almost overcame me. It was my women friends who stopped me. "You don't have to burn what you write," they told me. "Or, you can burn it later, just don't burn it right now." Their support got me through that first year of not burning my writing, and made possible all that followed. Twenty years later I have a bookshelf fully of journals, cabinets of stories and a series of novels but without that first woman putting her hand on mind and saying wait, stop, you don't have to destroy your own work, I would have nothing but ashes scattered in every city I have ever lived.

Who are your favorite authors and strongest influences? Are they the same?

Flannery O'Connor is one of my all time favorites, and she is a powerful influence. As a Zen Baptist, I can't quite match her Catholic intensity but what she does for the middle-class southerner, I would love to do for the working class. I also adore James Baldwin, Tennessee Williams, Carson McCullers, Zora Neale Hurston and the whole critical tradition of southern outlaw writers the queer, disenfranchised and expatriate novelists whose books I read as a girl. These days I make a point of reading and collecting contemporary women and working class novelists writers like Doris Betts, Jane Hamilton, Jim Grimsley, Sapphire, Alan Gurganus, Terry McMillan, Amy Bloom and Jewelle Gomez. Most of all I love poets Audre Lorde, Muriel Rukeyser, Ai, Adrienne Rich, Mark Doty, Sharon Olds, and Thom Gunn. When I go on tour, my greatest difficulty is the pile of small volumes of poetry I acquire at every stop. I keep shipping home boxes of books and dreaming of the day I can sit among the boxes and pour over books I have not yet read.

Did the critical acclaim and media attention that Bastard Out of Carolina received make it more pleasurable or more daunting to write Cavedweller?

I began Cavedweller before I had finished Bastard Out of Carolina which did change my life enough to make things like paying the bills much more easy and getting uninterrupted writing time more problematic. I began with Cissy, a child who hated her mother and felt herself alone in the world and who I knew had two sisters who had every reason to despise her just as she to hate them. I also began with a very powerful image of Cissy's mother, the gifted and drunken Delia singing so powerfully she broke the hearts of all who heard her. I knew Delia was a woman whose sense of guilt was destroying her and who wanted to try one more time for her own redemption. If I had not had such a strong sense of these women, I would have crawled into a cave and never have written another novel.

It's a fortunate thing these people get in my head and start talking so insistently. Otherwise I don't know what I would do. I've got another pair in my back brain now almost drowning out the book I had already started. It will be interesting to see who shouts louder and gets their story told first.

Spanning four generations, Cavedweller is your most expansive work to date. How did the writing process differ?

Cavedweller is a wider, more expansive work written in third person and various voices, much more difficult to work out on the page than the first person, relatively straightforward Bastard Out of Carolina. But Bastard was written in spurts over a decade as I could manage the time to write, and the hardest part of finishing the novel was breaking up the short story form in which it was written to make it a true novel. Cavedweller was never written in short story form it was a large landscape to begin.

Cavedweller was also written in half the time it took to write Bastard in large part because I could do it full time (in between raising a child and traveling too much) rather than fitting it in after working at an exhausting day job. In many ways, Bastard makes Cavedweller possible both in terms of buying me time to write and in what I was able to do with the women in the book. I learned so much in getting the Boatwrights down on the page, I knew better how to deal with the people of Cayro.

Finally, I have to say that Bastard was also written to a gospel soundtrack while Cavedweller is all rock and roll both in pacing and character. I use music to pin down my characters in my own mind playing the same records over and over as I work on particular characters or sections. By the time I finished Cavedweller, I had played so much of the rock and roll of the seventies, I was starting to write the lyrics and music for Delia's band.

In an interview with San Francisco Focus, you mention an alternate ending to Bastard Out of Carolina in which Bone and her mother unite to kill Daddy Glenn. Though it felt good to write such an ending, you scrapped it because it would have ruined the book. Did you experiment with other, more tragic, endings for Cavedweller?

Lord yes! I tried to kill each of the daughters in Cavedweller death being such a great closing —but none of them would die.

Cavedweller takes place in small-town Georgia in the 80s and 90s, while Bastard Out of Carolina is set in the rustic South Carolina of the fifties, yet there seems to be little difference in the quality or pace of living. In the thirty or forty years since your childhood, how, if at all, has the rural South changed?

Completely and not at all. Television and shopping malls and community colleges make a big difference but people are intransigent.

Nolan Reitower stands out as a male who is kind and trustworthy. Was the character of Nolan difficult to create or sustain?

Nolan was a gift and I know half a dozen people who are a match for him, not the least of whom is the father of my son. It's easier to write kind and trustworthy people when you have them in your life.

Caving is a fascinating hobby, and your accounts of both its pleasures and dangers are breathtakingly real. Have you explored caves similar to Paula's Lost?

Twenty years ago when I lived in Tallahassee Florida I went caving in South Georgia with a small group of women just as stubborn and foolish as the women in Cavedweller. It was filthy, terrifying and completely exhilarating. I'd go again any time but my girlfriend won't hear of it.

 

DISCUSSION QUESTIONS

  1. Anney Boatwright loved her daughters, but put her husband first. Delia Byrd fights tenaciously for her girls. What characteristics differentiate Delia from Anney? (Note: This question also relates to Bastard Out of Carolina)
     
  2. Why do Cayro's inhabitants despise Delia? Do they see in her a reflection of loved ones who have abandoned them, or are they jealous of her for doing what they were unable to do, escape a dead-end town and abusive husband?
     
  3. Which of Delia's daughters, if any, is most like her? What traits of hers do they have in common?
     
  4. What kind of illumination does Cissy find in the silence and darkness of the caves?
     
  5. What do Grandaddy Byrd and Grandma Windsor have in common? What are their reasons and methods of separating themselves others, even those they claim to love?
     
  6. What are the parallels between Nadine Reitower's behavior, which changes so radically after her stroke and Amanda's?
     
  7. Analyze the friendship between Rosemary, M.T., and Delia? How does it help each woman?
     
  8. Delia can take a run-down object, be it a woman ravaged by small town life or an old piece of furniture, strip away the ugliness and wear, and bring out the natural beauty. Does she, in fact, remake herself by the end of Cavedweller?

Table of Contents

Cavedweller is Dorothy Allison's second novel, a most praiseworthy sophomore effort from the author of the critically acclaimed Bastard Out of Carolina. Allison returns to the rural South that she knows so well, in a sweeping novel of the human spirit. Cavedweller explores the lengths to which the human heart will go for the good of others; it tells the story of four women -- a mother and her three daughters -- who have reached a place where violence and what redeems it intersect.

Cavedweller begins with Delia Byrd climbing into her Datsun and returning to Cayro, Georgia, the city she fled a decade before. She had left Cayro to escape a violent, whiskey-dependent man who loved her passionately and beat her mercilessly. She had left behind two daughters and everything she had ever known for the bright lights and rock-'n'-roll life of Los Angeles, where she went to become a songwriter. Now, after ten years of drugs and hotels and alcohol and credit-card bills, Delia realizes she has made a terrible mistake. Sobering up, she grabs her young third daughter, ten-year-old Cissy, and sets off across the country to find her eldest children in Cayro: a world of Baptists, the Holy Redeemer congregation, a network of colorful and intricate caves interwoven with community history and secrets, and a family that despises Delia for what she did and who she has become.

Reading Group Guide

INTRODUCTION

The Village Voice has called her "a hell of a writer-tough and loose, clear and compassionate." George Garrett, author and critic who reviewed Bastard Out of Carolina for The New York Times Book Review wanted to "blow a bugle to alert the reading public that a major new talent has arrived." Critics have likened her to William Faulkner, Flannery O'Connor and Harper Lee, naming her the first writer of her generation to dramatize the lives and language of poor whites in the South. "She has an all-encompassing knowledge of what it's like to be the other, the outsider," says Studs Terkel. Garrett agrees: "It's as if the people in Dorothea Lange photographs, in the work of Margaret Bourke-White and Walker Evans, were able to speak." But with a dead-center look that says "Don't mess with me, honey. I'm liable to pour gravy on you," Allison defies easy characterization, as one writer for The New York Times put it. And she likes it that way.

Part gospel singer, part country preacher, Allison often jokes that as a girl she wanted to be Janis Joplin. She has a wardrobe full of rhinestone-studded leather jackets and a desk drawer full of family snapshots. She's a mean shot with a rifle, and her language is always dead-on: lush, beautiful, and brutal. "Dorothy sees everything", says Jewelle Gomez, the poet and novelist.

Allison has spent her entire life telling forbidden stories, pulling her best fiction out from the edge of terror and the courage to heal. In Two or Three Things I Know for Sure, a short memoir she published in 1995, Allison writes,

Where I was born -- Greenville, South Carolina -- smelled like nowhere else I've been. Cut wet grass, split green apples, baby shit and beer bottles, cheap makeup and motor oil. Everything was ripe, everything was rotting. Hound dogs butted my calves. People shouted in the distance; crickets boomed in my ears. That country was beautiful, I swear to you, the most beautiful place I've ever been. Beautiful and terrible.

Allison wants the hard and terrible stories, she demands them from herself. And her readers wait for them.

ABOUT THE TITLE

Readers might call Cavedweller the blazing daughter of Bastard Out of Carolina, but even that will not do justice to the mystical story and landscape, the world of family, and the secret-filled South in which Allison has set in her new novel. Allison begins her absorbing saga about Delia Byrd and her three daughters with a simple sentence: "Death changes everything," and by story's end, Allison has uncovered the complicated cycles of sinning and atonement along an enormous expanse of births, deaths, and rebirths alongside husbands, lovers, families, friends. Young, beautiful Delia flees a whisky-soaked, violent man who loves her passionately and beats her within an inch of her life. On a dusty sideroad she meets Randall, a musician on his way to the top, and deserts her two baby daughters in Cayro, Georgia, land of biscuit franchises and backwoods Baptists. Randall and Delia form the band Mud Dog, and together they write music, hit the road, and have a child, Cissy. But even while pasting together a life of soul, drugs, truck stops, vodka shots, and credit card bills in the glitter of Los Angeles, Delia doesn't care about fame or money and cannot live with the fact that she left her two girls behind. When a motorcycle accident kills Randall, Delia quits the bottle and takes Cissy on a midnight drive-through mission back to reclaim her life (and reconnect with her original sin) in Georgia, where folks remember her as "that bitch [who] ran off and left her babies."

Delia fights off the urge to drink as she suffers the scorn of her family and a bitter community who despises her for what she did and who she became. She moves back in with Clint Windsor, her cancer-stricken husband, and offers to care for him on his deathbed if he will allow her to reclaim her two daughters, Amanda, 15, and Dede, 12, from their Bible-thumping grandmother. Evangelical Amanda takes after her grandma Windsor, and pursues the Lord and anti-abortion activism with the manic fervor of a zealot. Wild and slim Dede is every man's dream, redneck or not. Though not into Jesus, she is as passionate as her sister Amanda, and dreams of getting behind the wheel of a big truck and heading down the road, any road, out of Georgia. Finally, there's tough yet vulnerable Cissy, who finds her obsession in the dank sport of caving, where she finds strength to grab her future as she scrapes through the caves of Southern Georgia, through Paula's Lost and Little Mouth. All three girls are something to behold as they grow up into enraged yet empowered women. It is Delia, though, who is the real "cavedweller"--a woman whose deep past is gradually mapped and explored, and who is able to remake herself and her family through what she discovers. Led by the example of their determined mother, each daughter opens her heart a little wider to others and finds her own way in the world.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Dorothy Allison was born in 1949 in Greenville, South Carolina, to a fourteen-year-old unwed mother. The only father figure she ever knew was a violently abusive man who used her mother's desperate desire for respectability to tie the terrified family to him. Though it was Allison's mother who placed her daughter in these precarious situations by not challenging her husband, Allison credits her as an inspiration. While the Greenville community disdained Allison for being poor and illegitimate, Allison's mother insisted her child was bright. She kept a jar of money she called the college fund, and though she had to empty it on several occasions and Allison's college was paid for by a National Merit Scholarship, just the presence of that jar convinced Allison that she had a right to excel.

The first of her family to graduate high school, Allison went on to get a bachelor's degree from Florida Presbyterian College and a master's from New York's School of Social Research. Allison credits emerging feminism with much of her redemption. Suddenly, getting angry did not make her a misfit, and the movement gave her the strength to reclaim her self from years of put downs and abuse.

When she began her writing career, Allison kept close to the gay and feminist presses, distrusting the establishment and believing that "literature was written by men, judged by men." In 1988 Firebrand Press published Trash, a book of short stories, that started to win Allison notice. This was followed by The Women Who Hate Me: Poetry, 1980-1990, which secured Allison's stature as a respected talent within the gay and lesbian community.

When Bastard Out of Carolina was published by Dutton in 1992, Allison achieved mainstream success. Bastard was greeted with rave reviews from the Village Voice, the San Francisco Chronicle, and The New York Times Book Review, and nominated for the National Book Award. Allison returned to a small press with Skin: Talking About Sex, Class and Literature, a critically acclaimed collection of essays.

In 1995, she published a short memoir, Two or Three Things I Know for Sure, using text and family photographs. In March 1998, Allison's most ambitious work yet was released. Cavedweller is an epic novel that chronicles the trials and victories of four strong women and the opportunities they wrest from the unforgiving terrain of small town Georgia.

In addition to her own books, Allison has contributed to many publications, ranging from The New York Times to Harpers and Allure. Allison lives in Northern California with her partner and their son, and continues to pursue "the thing all writers want--for the world to break open in response to my story...The same thing I have always wanted."

AUTHOR INTERVIEW

A conversation with Dorothy Allison

What would you define as the starting point of your career as a writer? Was there a certain experience or occurrence that revealed your vocation to you?

As a child I was a talented liar with a gift for telling horrible scary stories to my sisters and cousins but I did not begin to write stories down until adolescence. My first "written" story came about after I fell madly in love with The Fighting Prince of Donegal a Disney Movie about an Irish revolutionary in the army of Robert the Bruce. It was a fairly awful movie but I made it into a ninety page play in verse that my mama thought perfectly wonderful. My verse version was fairly awful too, but it started me off writing poems and stories. For me, writing was, and is, sneaky. It teases the truth out of you, and in my poor and violent family the truth was terribly dangerous. For a decade I burned every story and journal entry I wrote, lighting fireplaces with poems and building bonfires with fragments of novels. Only when I discovered the women's movement did I begin to write stories again in earnest, and then only with the help and encouragement of other women. Even then the terrible drive to hide and destroy what I wrote almost overcame me. It was my women friends who stopped me. "You don't have to burn what you write," they told me. "Or, you can burn it later, just don't burn it right now." Their support got me through that first year of not burning my writing, and made possible all that followed. Twenty years later I have a bookshelf fully of journals, cabinets of stories and a series of novels but without that first woman putting her hand on mind and saying wait, stop, you don't have to destroy your own work, I would have nothing but ashes scattered in every city I have ever lived.

Who are your favorite authors and strongest influences? Are they the same?

Flannery O'Connor is one of my all time favorites, and she is a powerful influence. As a Zen Baptist, I can't quite match her Catholic intensity but what she does for the middle-class southerner, I would love to do for the working class. I also adore James Baldwin, Tennessee Williams, Carson McCullers, Zora Neale Hurston and the whole critical tradition of southern outlaw writers the queer, disenfranchised and expatriate novelists whose books I read as a girl. These days I make a point of reading and collecting contemporary women and working class novelists writers like Doris Betts, Jane Hamilton, Jim Grimsley, Sapphire, Alan Gurganus, Terry McMillan, Amy Bloom and Jewelle Gomez. Most of all I love poets Audre Lorde, Muriel Rukeyser, Ai, Adrienne Rich, Mark Doty, Sharon Olds, and Thom Gunn. When I go on tour, my greatest difficulty is the pile of small volumes of poetry I acquire at every stop. I keep shipping home boxes of books and dreaming of the day I can sit among the boxes and pour over books I have not yet read.

Did the critical acclaim and media attention that Bastard Out of Carolina received make it more pleasurable or more daunting to write Cavedweller?

I began Cavedweller before I had finished Bastard Out of Carolina which did change my life enough to make things like paying the bills much more easy and getting uninterrupted writing time more problematic. I began with Cissy, a child who hated her mother and felt herself alone in the world and who I knew had two sisters who had every reason to despise her just as she to hate them. I also began with a very powerful image of Cissy's mother, the gifted and drunken Delia singing so powerfully she broke the hearts of all who heard her. I knew Delia was a woman whose sense of guilt was destroying her and who wanted to try one more time for her own redemption. If I had not had such a strong sense of these women, I would have crawled into a cave and never have written another novel.

It's a fortunate thing these people get in my head and start talking so insistently. Otherwise I don't know what I would do. I've got another pair in my back brain now almost drowning out the book I had already started. It will be interesting to see who shouts louder and gets their story told first.

Spanning four generations, Cavedweller is your most expansive work to date. How did the writing process differ?

Cavedweller is a wider, more expansive work written in third person and various voices, much more difficult to work out on the page than the first person, relatively straightforward Bastard Out of Carolina. But Bastard was written in spurts over a decade as I could manage the time to write, and the hardest part of finishing the novel was breaking up the short story form in which it was written to make it a true novel. Cavedweller was never written in short story form it was a large landscape to begin.

Cavedweller was also written in half the time it took to write Bastard in large part because I could do it full time (in between raising a child and traveling too much) rather than fitting it in after working at an exhausting day job. In many ways, Bastard make Cavedweller possible both in terms of buying me time to write and in what I was able to do with the women in the book. I learned so much in getting the Boatwrights down on the page, I knew better how to deal with the people of Cayro.

Finally, I have to say that Bastard was also written to a gospel soundtrack while Cavedweller is all rock and roll both in pacing and character. I use music to pin down my characters in my own mind playing the same records over and over as I work on particular characters or sections. By the time I finished Cavedweller, I had played so much of the rock and roll of the seventies, I was starting to write the lyrics and music for Delia's band.

In an interview with San Francisco Focus, you mention an alternate ending to Bastard Out of Carolina in which Bone and her mother unite to kill Daddy Glenn. Though it felt good to write such an ending, you scrapped it because it would have ruined the book. Did you experiment with other, more tragic, endings for Cavedweller?

Lord yes! I tried to kill each of the daughters in Cavedweller death being such a great closing-- but none of them would die.

Cavedweller takes place in small-town Georgia in the 80s and 90s, while Bastard Out of Carolina is set in the rustic South Carolina of the fifties, yet there seems to be little difference in the quality or pace of living. In the thirty or forty years since your childhood, how, if at all, has the rural South changed?

Completely and not at all. Television and shopping malls and community colleges make a big difference but people are intransigent.

Nolan Reitower stands out as a male who is kind and trustworthy. Was the character of Nolan difficult to create or sustain?

Nolan was a gift and I know half a dozen people who are a match for him, not the least of whom is the father of my son. It's easier to write kind and trustworthy people when you have them in your life.

Caving is a fascinating hobby, and your accounts of both its pleasures and dangers are breathtakingly real. Have you explored caves similar to Paula's Lost?

Twenty years ago when I lived in Tallahassee Florida I went caving in South Georgia with a small group of women just as stubborn and foolish as the women in Cavedweller. It was filthy, terrifying and completely exhilarating. I'd go again any time but my girlfriend won't hear of it.

PRAISE

"Impassioned prose...superbly salty dialogue...an altogether wonderful second novel."
-Kirkus Reviews

DISCUSSION QUESTIONS

1. Anney Boatwright loved her daughters, but put her husband first. Delia Byrd fights tenaciously for her girls. What characteristics differentiate Delia from Anney? (Note: This question also relates to Bastard Out of Carolina)

2. Why do Cayro's inhabitants despise Delia? Do they see in her a reflection of loved ones who have abandoned them, or are they jealous of her for doing what they were unable to do, escape a dead-end town and abusive husband?

3. Which of Delia's daughters, if any, is most like her? What traits of hers do they have in common?

4. What kind of illumination does Cissy find in the silence and darkness of the caves?

5. What do Grandaddy Byrd and Grandma Windsor have in common? What are their reasons and methods of separating themselves others, even those they claim to love?

6. What are the parallels between Nadine Reitower's behavior, which changes so radically after her stroke and Amanda's?

7. Analyze the friendship between Rosemary, M.T., and Delia? How does it help each woman?

8. Delia can take a run-down object, be it a woman ravaged by small town life or an old piece of furniture, strip away the ugliness and wear, and bring out the natural beauty. Does she, in fact, remake herself by the end of Cavedweller?

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Bastard Out of Carolina by Dorothy Allison

This autobiographical novel about a young girl in the rural South facing abuse and betrayal won high critical acclaim and a National Book Award nomination upon its release in 1992. The power of Bastard Out of Carolina is simultaneously narrative, emotional, and political. "The novel is mean," Allison says, "meant to rip off all that facade of imagination and lies we place around sexual violence and children."

The backdrop of this tale is Greenville, South Carolina, and its narrator is "Bone" Boatwright, a twelve year old trying to remember and comprehend the events that led to her being abandoned by her mother. Bone and her sister Reese are surrounded by colorful characters, most of them relations. Her uncles are feared by men and adored by women, while her aunts are long-suffering yet defiant. Her grandmother is a strict matriarch who loves her brood but "always loved her boy children more." While Anney Boatwright and her two girls face many trials--Bone's illegitimacy, the death of Reese's father--their real trouble starts when Anney marries Glenn Waddell, the black sheep of a prominent family, whose most outstanding characteristics are his uncontrollable temper and oversized hands. Though Daddy Glenn at first offers the girls sugary reassurances, when Anney miscarries his child he turns against them. Instead of lashing out at his wife, Glenn chooses the weakest target, Bone, and tears the family apart by claiming to need Anney's love and care more than her own young daughters do.

Even as Bone suffers immense hardship, she is not alone. Fierce determination and a loving extended family help her through, and though our heartsache to think of what Bone must bear, her perseverance leaves us hope for her future.

Allison says she designed the book so that the reader meets all these people--Bone, Anney, and Glenn, the wild uncles and long-suffering aunts--and becomes gradually drawn into their world through the character of Bone. "You see what happens--Daddy Glen's cruelty, the sexual violence--only through the filter of Bone trying to survive. It took me a long time to get it right. About 10 years."

The Showtime movie based on the book, directed by Anjelica Huston and starring Jennifer Jason Leigh, was funded by Ted Turner, but he pronounced it too graphic to be shown on his network. In several states, Bastard has been banned from classrooms and school libraries. Most recently, the book was distributed to Maine high-schoolers by private citizens, in protest of the Maine Supreme Court's November 1997 decision that allowed the schools to continue their ban of the book.

Two or Three Things I Know for Sure by Dorothy Allison

Allison's short memoir interweaves reminiscences, observations and family snapshots. It starts as an ode to the Gibson family, especially its women--Allison's aunts, mother, grandmother, sisters, and cousins--who broke down young and aged quickly, but somehow kept going and, refused to run away. Looking back, Allison acknowledges "The women I loved most in the world horrified me. I did not want to grow up to be them."

It is from aunt Dot that the title phrase comes, "Lord, girl, there's only two or three things I know for sure," and Allison uses it to punctuate her stories, to ease us from one bitter or wistful recollection to the next. Her world is never pretty or secure, but she is able to transform it through revelations from herself and other people, some sought and some serendipitous. She examines both the detrimental and redeeming power of storytelling and shows how she managed to wrest her past and her present away from those who had hurt her and from those who refused to acknowledge the truth.

Interviews

On April 4th, the barnesandnoble.com Live Events Auditorium welcomed acclaimed author Dorothy Allison, who joined us online to discuss her new book, CAVEDWELLER.



Stephanie from Burlington: Dorothy -- I loved your new book, CAVEDWELLER, as well as BASTARD OUT OF CAROLINA...Can you tell us a little bit about your childhood? Where did you grow up? Did you imagine that you would become a writer as a little girl?

Dorothy Allison: I'll try and answer a couple of questions...Please forgive my typos...typing is not my specialty. BASTARD was autobiographical in that it began with all the stories I was ever told about how I was conceived and born...but the people in my family lie, so some of that is uncertain. More important is the fact that I am an incest survivor and grew up in an enormously complicated working-class family. All my work reflects that fact. Specially how I feel about mothers and daughters -- much of which is clear in CAVEDWELLER.


Angela from Seoul, Korea: How old were you when you first began to write?

Dorothy Allison: At about 11, I wrote a 60-page play in verse...I was ambitious but not very good. When I went to college I became convinced that people like me -- poor, working class, lesbian -- never become writers. So I quit thinking about it, even though that is all I ever dreamed of doing. It was not until I became active in the women's movement that I began to write and publish, and not until women in my community presuaded me to stop burning evrything I wrote that I began to really keep my work and pubish.


Amy from Missouri: What is your book about?

Dorothy Allison: CAVEDWELLER is the story of Delia Byrd and her daughters. Delia goes back to Cayro, Georgia, after 10 years in a rock and roll band -- goes back to reclaim the infant daughters she abandoned and to make peace with herself. She takes with her her 10-year-old daughter, Cissy. This is a book about forgiveness. Also about how women heal themselves, and sometimes don't.


Peter from Connecticut: Covering four generations, CAVEDWELLER has a more expansive plot than any of your other books. Did the writing process differ for this book? Was it more difficult to write in the third person, versus the first person of BASTARD? Did CAVEDWELLER take you a lot longer to write than BASTARD?

Dorothy Allison: CAVEDWELLER took longer than I had planned -- five years, but I lost a year when my son was born. Just couldn't do much more than gape at him for a while. It is also, as you note, third person and a multiple-generation novel. I wanted to give myself a challenge after the very personal first-person child's voice in BASTARD. The most difficult thing was thinking about this book as a second novel. There should be a way to jump to the third and not have to react so much against what you did in the first. But I love my girls and I am glad I made that world. So it has been the best thing I could do, in a second book, anyway.


Andy from San Francisco, CA: How does your sexuality affect the stories you tell, or conversely, how has your story affected your sexuality?

Dorothy Allison: I was born a bastard and an object of contempt in a small southern town...That affects everything I think, write, and believe. I knew I was a lesbian as a teenager, but I was also an incest survivor, so I also believed I would never let anyone touch me. That took a long time to work out and has profoundly shaped my sexuality -- as well as my understanding of how people act and don't act on sexual desire. I try to write matter-of-factly about all kinds of people -- though I don't seem to have as yet much work about the upper class. Bu I think I am here to advocate for the women of my family and my community -- the people I don't see paid enough honor in the world. In CAVEDWELLER I made the youngest daughter a lesbian who has never heard the word and does not know why she is fascintated with the women she goes caging with -- not until one of her sisters tells her bluntly. It was an interesting character to explore in terms of my own sexuality.


Randall from Pittsburgh, PA: Dorothy -- you create such interesting characters. Do your characters speak to you? Do you know what direction they will take in your novels?

Dorothy Allison: I know where I want my characters to go, but they don't always cooperate. I know who they are and know more about them as I write them out -- and that pretty much constructs what they will and can do. It's called character-driven fiction. It's what works for me.


Sam from New York City: Did the critical acclaim and awards that BASTARD OUT OF CAROLINA received make it more daunting -- or more enjoyable -- to write your next book? Did you feel from the start of CAVEDWELLER that you could write another novel as good as BASTARD?

Dorothy Allison: I knew from the start that I had to write a different novel than BASTARD, that I had a hard task in front of me. But all that is about the fear that happens when you are not writing. When you are writing, all you can think about is what your people are doing, what is coming, what is working or no, and how far from what you intended you have strayed. I have to say also that having finished CAVEDWELLER, I feel as if a weight has lifted, and I am now writing like a house afire. Two more novels, a string of stories and poems are coming along fast.


Vicky from Cupertino, CA: Hi Dorothy, I met you at UCSC last year when you gave a talk/reading at Oakes College and in Paul Skenazy's class. I didn't get a chance to tell you then, so I'd like to tell you now. You are one of the most moving and amazing writers I've ever read, and it was an honor to have met you. Thank you for that experience. I hope to meet you again someday.

Dorothy Allison: I remember that class!!! It was terrific. I love going to talk to students -- specially writing students and literature obsessives. I alternate teahing and writing -- can't do both at the same time -- and plan to teach next year at Beloit College in Wisconsin. Given a choice, I would add more hours to the day just to be able to sleep enough to raise my child, write novels, and teach as much as I would like.


Karin from Charlottesville, VA: Gospel music played a part in BASTARD OUT OF CAROLINA, and rock and roll sings from the pages of CAVEDWELLER. Did you listen to music/certain artists when you wrote CAVEDWELLER?

Dorothy Allison: BASTARD was written to a gospel soundtrack. I had all these old tapes of the Carter family -- specially Mama Maybelle -- and played them over and over. Also Ruth Brown's "Mama He Treats Your Daughter Mean"...a classic. CAVEDWELLER was written to a rock and roll soundtrack. Everything from Jefferson Airplane and the Doors -- I thought of Randall, Cissy's daddy, as a cut-rate Jim Morrison -- to Lynyrd Skynyrd and Fleetwood Mac. Delia I thought of as a kind of poor woman's Janis Joplin -- one who walked away from the business, and I knew she would have to do that to live. I also played a lot of Tracey Nelson and Mimi Farina. The best thing was that I got to buy all that music and listen again.


Laura from New Orleans, LA: Who are your favorite writers and stongest literary influences? Do you read a lot of contemporary fiction? Any newcomers that you especially like?

Dorothy Allison: I would read all the time if I could. I have an enormous list of favorites. Elizabeth McCracken, THE GIANT'S HOUSE; Toni Morrison, THE BLUEST EYE, SULA; Jane Hamilton, A MAP OF THE WORLD; Anne Lamott, BIRD BY BIRD; Jeanette Winterson, THE PASSION and ORANGES Mary Gaitskill; Amy Bloom, COME TO ME, LOVE INVENTS US; Jennifer Levin, WATER DANCER; Jim Grimsley, WINTER BIRDS and MY DROWNING; Randall Kenan, A VISITATION OF SPIRITS: Judith Katz, RUNNING FIERCELY TOWARD A HIGH THIN SOUND; Sapphire, AMERICAN DREAMS and PUSH; Doris Betts; Blanche Boyd, NERVES; Ann Patchett, THE PATRON SAINT OF LIARS and TAFT; Gail Godwin; Allan Gurganus, WHITE PEOPLE and PLAYS WELL WITH OTHERS; Ed White; Jewell Gomez; and poets -- specially poets...Sharon Olds, Mark Doty, Adrienne Rich, so many I cannot list them all. And I reread Muriel Rukeyser twice a year...


Berry from Waynesboro: Which of Delia's daughters did you like writing about the most?

Dorothy Allison: I fell in love with each of them in turn. But the one who surpirsed me was Amanda. I knew she was stiff-necked and angry, hardest of all on herself but hard enough on everyone around her to be deeply, painfully lonely. But she grew on me. I found myself seeing more and more of myself in her and wanting her to be less hurt, less mean to herself, more able to love. Evenutally, I began to think of her as a kind of Pentecostal feminist -- driven and passionate and kind of who I would have been if I had not been taken to Florida as a teenager.


Marilyn from New York City: Your work, all of it, is the best! It's courageous and touches souls, not only mine but literally hundreds of our LIU students in our freshman writing classes. Just wanted to thank you and tell you. I can't wait to read CAVEDWELLER and pass it on to my students and good friends. Have you any more poetry or essay collections coming out in the not-so-distant future?

Dorothy Allison: It looks like I might have both a collection of poetry and a book of stories in the next few years. Probably the poetry will be out first. I am also halfway through a new novel. This month I feel like I might even finish it in the next two years -- which would be a record for me. I have been asked to write a book of essays about mothers and sons, specially about being a queer mom living in an extended queer family with mom and mom and dad and lots of godmothers and goddaddies. But I think that would take me a lot longer to get done. So no book of essays soon. Sorrry for the delay, my cat climbed on the keyboard...


Paul from New York City: Nolan Reitower is a kind, loyal man. Was he a difficult character to create? Is there anyone you modeled him after? What about Randall?

Dorothy Allison: Nolan Reitower is based -- emotionally -- on my son's dad. Who is a completely kind loyal man of deep passions and great gentleness and who also seems to have the capacity to love without demanding much in the way of immediate recognition for that love. Some days I would also wish Dan were a bit more demanding of others in terms of how they treat him -- but like Nolan he is that kind of even-tempered stubborn man who goes his own way. Truth is I have known a number of men like Nolan. I have spend the last two decades collecting them, like rubies in the dirt, hoping always to offset what I was led to believe as a child -- that men were dangerous and untrustworthy and violent, somehow not fully sane. The worst thing that happens to girls who survive family violence and rape is that diminished sense of trust, the damaged expectations they bring to men and boys. Nolan is my vote for the power of gentleness and love, and stubbornness. I trust stubborness. Randall is a different man altogether -- though also a gentle, loving man, just not one who can be trusted. He is like my uncles and the kinds of uncles I gave Bone in BASTARD. A wonderful handsome hurt little boy-man, who has no meanness in him but can't really be trusted to protect those he loves. Have to say too, I have fallen in love with a couple of women like that, so I understand Delia's love for him completely.


Megan from New York: You mention that you are halfway through a new novel...I am dying to know what it will be about! Can you give the secret away?

Dorothy Allison: Two novels, actually. But one is a longstanding project based on the life of Janis Joplin -- out of which walked Delia Byrd -- and that one is on the back of the desk right now. I'll go back to it when the other one slows or stalls. (That's how it works for me. I hate the very idea of writer's block, so I move from one project to another to avoid it. Doesn't work entirely, but works well enough that it is now part of my style and couldn't be changed.) Anyway, the front of the desk is full of what I am calling a San Francisco novel, which concentrates on two mid-20s young people -- a girl and her brother who live together. The young woman is enormously angry and has reason to be, still recovering from an accident that has wiped out who she used to be. Her brother takes care of her and resents her and wants more than anything to be somwhere else. That 's about all I can say without doing my storytelling mind a damage. You talk too much about a work in progress and it messes up...you start to lose things and voices. After a while the charactes stop talking and only description happens...the worst thing. Makes flat-footed outlines, not good books.


Karin from Charlottesville, VA: Writers often only write about what they know...Your books are so touching and cover some powerful topics (incest, wife abuse, child abuse) -- can you imagine writing about things that you don't know, or would this be too distant or difficult?

Dorothy Allison: I have never played clarinet and can't sing, but I write about both and think they are very like writing so am not daunted at that...Never been a hairdresser -- though I have cleaned houses -- but I could easily get into Delia's mind when she was doing hair. I live in San Francisco now but write a sweaty southern landscape. Seems to me that in my work I always set myself tasks and then try to do them as best I can. Writing black characters, angry older women, deeply hurt men, all that stuff I do all the time -- it's sometimes very difficult, but I go on trying to get it right. It's the job, as my friend Bo Huston used to say. It's the job.


Doreen from Macon, GA: You are so honest in this interview and also in your memoir, TWO OR THREE THINGS I KNOW FOR SURE. Do you find it difficult or ever strange that so many readers know so many intimate things about you? Do you mind meeting readers at book signings -- is it ever awkward?

Dorothy Allison: That issue of what is part of the job...I think about that all the time. Not just being matter-of-fact about writing different characters, but being very blunt about how my life is reflected in my writing. I don't have any room to hide. It's my ethic, my politics, my understanding of how the world works. Some people get to be hidden, to go about almost invisible. But for me, that is not an option. I am one of those people who went too far over into that place of wanting to die. I need to know that I have nothing to be ashamed about or to fear from the back of my brain. That means saying, yes, I was raped as a child, and it will not make me someone who cannot do the work I want to do, or love the people I love. Matter-of-fact is a pretty good stance. I keep my knees bent and my eyes wide open. Sometimes I screw up. Sometimes I get scared. Mostly being honest and forthright makes me less scared. These days the biggest problem is being tired. I don't always feel like I have the energy to be stared at so hard in public, but then I think that is part of why I wrote CAVEDWELLER, a novel about a woman who runs away from fame and a girl who falls in love with the dark. Make sense?


Clay from Dayton, OH: Dorothy -- your descriptions of caving are breathtakingly real. Have you explored caves similar to Paula's Lost from CAVEDWELLER? What inspired you to write about caving?

Dorothy Allison: I have been caving!~~!!! Did it in my 20s when I was foolish enough to try anything and butch enough to pretend I was a jock. Failed miserably at the jock part and never did too good at trying to butch it up either, but I loved caving. It was the most physically demanding, frightening thing I ever did. And you were completely dependent on the people you were with and completely on your own. I found that fascinating, and terrifying. That is the thing, of course. It is not merely the dark that is so terrifying. It is the weight of the earth above you. The feeling that you might not be able to climb out safely. You get scared and frantic and determined and full of anxious energy. Then you finally do crawl out, and you are filthy past belief and you have done this stupid, amazing thing. All you can do is laugh, and think about doing it again. It's very like sex.


Grace from San Diego, CA: I saw the film version of BASTARD OUT OF CAROLINA, directed by Anjelica Huston. How involved with this production were you? Were you pleased with the results?

Dorothy Allison: I met wtih Anjelica Huston and was very impressed with her and the company she put together -- called Out of Carolina Productions, which I found deeply amusing. Proof the word "bastard" is still scary. The thing that most impressed me was the feeling that I could trust her to pay close attention to the issues of sexual violence in the novel. I was very afraid that someone would make a movie out of my story that would be offensive, sexually gratuitious, shocking for shock's sake -- all that. I would not have been able to stand that. The movie that Anjelica Huston made and Ted Truner refused to broadcast is enormously powerful and effective. There is no doubt when you see it that what is happening to that child is criminal. It makes the hair on the back of your neck come up, you feel you must do something!!! And that is exactly what you should feel. It is a beautiful and brave accomplishment. I have to say that it is hard for a writer to go through this process. Only part of the book gets used. It's like the abridged audio version, a slice of the narrative, and some of the parts I truly love disappeared out of the story. But in this case, I think what was made was worth that part. I am proud of it.


Marilyn from New York City: I understand what you mean about writing to live. What kinds of things do you do to reenergize, besides, of course, your writing?

Dorothy Allison: I read good books. That helps a lot. I go to hear writers read -- specially poets. There is nothing I love better than hearing great work read aloud with passion. Every time, it makes me want to go home and write more. I used to do karate but can't do that anymore. Have some back trouble and trouble with my hips that limits a lot of my physical ability. Now I am a gym devote -- biking and weightlifting and stretching. Do a carefully designed workout every other day that keeps me able to sit at a typewirter for 10 hours at a stretch and travel by airplane when I have to. It's extraordinary how much muscle it takes to do this job. I don't dare get too sedentary, or it becomes impossible to do what I have to to finish a piece of work -- to binge and type for hours and hours, pace back and forth for 20 minutes, and then sit down and go for hours more. I'm thinking about swimming, which some friends tell me is even better than biking and weightlifting. Don't know about that though. I just work out to be able to do what I want. My mama didn't raise a jock.


Moderator: Thank you for joining us online this evening, Dorothy Allison. Any closing comments for your readers?

Dorothy Allison: This has been quite an experience. I was afraid that I would do so many typos that no one could read what I typed or that I would crash this computer and possibly the whole .com. Lights would go out all over the coast, and the Internet itself would ripple and divide...Did I tell you that to keep my perspective open and imagination limber I write science fiction? I can easily imagine the Internet dividing and all sorts of interesting things, and people, spilling out...Thank you for making this work.


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